FROM SWANSEA:
17.36 road miles, give or take
COUNCIL:
Carmarthenshire
HOMES:
each roof in turn
A row of render terraces with roof windows in wet grey slate roofs, valley hillside behind in low cloud

Skylights and rooflights in Tumble

Y Tymbl in Carmarthenshire, a village that grew to house anthracite miners, and glass that gives dim rooms some daylight back.

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Showers over Tumble and a kitchen skylight

Think of a kitchen at the back of a house, extended some years ago with a flat roof and a skylight over the worktop. A shower comes through, and two things happen at once. Rain lands on the glass, and steam from the kettle rises to meet it from the other side.

The rain part depends on the roof around the glass. If the roof falls gently towards an outlet and the outlet is clear, water leaves in moments. If a hollow has formed beside the kerb, the water waits. The cure is a fall, built in when the roof is laid and kept clear afterwards. Even a roof called flat does better with a slight slope towards its drain.

The steam part depends on the glass and the air. A cold inner pane gathers moisture fastest, so better glazing helps. So does an extractor that stays on, a vent that is open, or an opening rooflight that you can lift when the pan boils.

Out on a pitched roof, the story is the flashing. Rain that wind shoves up the slope meets the flashing, which must overlap the coverings above and below the window. Fitted properly, it sends the water round the frame.

Sound completes the picture. Rain on glass makes a noise indoors, and a rain-noise option appears in the VELUX glazing list for some windows, though what is on offer varies by window and glazing variant.

General patterns, not a survey of the village. Your roof is looked at before anything is suggested.
House typeRoofDaylight idea
Terraced houses of the colliery erapitched, slateroof window for a rear bedroom
Later semis and detached housespitched, tilepair of roof windows, or a tunnel
Kitchen extensionsflatoverhead glass on a kerb
Lofts converted to bedroomspitchedtop-hung or centre-pivot window
WELSH NAME:
Y Tymbl
BUILT FOR:
anthracite miners
COUNTY:
Carmarthenshire

A village built for miners

Tumble, in Welsh Y Tymbl, is a village in Carmarthenshire. It developed in the 19th century to house the anthracite miners who worked at the nearby Dynant Fach and Great Mountain collieries. The village once had its own railway station, on the line that carried coal from the local mines to Llanelli Docks.

Tumble has a name of note, too. Gary Owen, the snooker player, was among its best-known residents, and he was world amateur champion in 1963 and 1966.

Tumble is north-west of Swansea, and at 17 road miles it sits well within our 30-mile reach. If you live nearby, we also fit rooflights in Cross Hands, Foelgastell, Llannon, Carmarthenshire and Pontyberem.

Houses built in the 19th century were often modest in size, with narrow rooms and small windows. That is a general remark about the age of a house, and it says nothing about any one street in Tumble. Yours may have been altered, extended or rebuilt, and the visit shows which.

Whatever a village's history, light in a house should come through glass sized for the room, set into a roof that has been looked at, and priced after the visit. That order of events holds on every street, whether the house is old or new, and it applies to a small landing window as much as to a large kitchen rooflight.

Position on the slope matters. A roof window set high and one set low meet the wind and the run-off differently, because the flashing and the water above it differ. The survey allows for that.

For a house with dim rooms, the question to ask is how daylight can reach them. A back bedroom under a slope can take a roof window. A middle landing can take a sun tunnel. A kitchen that has been pushed out at the back can take overhead glass. The survey tells us which of those your house can carry.

  • 19th c.century the village developed
  • 2collieries nearby, Dynant Fach and Great Mountain
  • 17miles from Swansea by road
PLANNING:
Carmarthenshire CC
BUILDING CONTROL:
local team or approver
SPECIAL CASES:
flat, listed, Article 4

What Carmarthenshire will want to know

For any planning question in Tumble, the body to ask is Carmarthenshire County Council. The answers turn on details of the roof and the house, and the guide to planning for skylights in Wales sets out the limits that apply to a rooflight on a house. Begin there.

Some situations sit outside those limits. A flat or maisonette is excluded from householder permitted development. An Article 4 direction removes it in areas where the council has made one, and a condition on a house's first planning consent can remove it for that house alone. A listed building needs listed building consent for work that touches its special character, and you apply for it through the council. Formal confirmation comes as a Lawful Development Certificate from the planning department.

Building control is the other approval. The Building Regulations treat a window, roof window or rooflight as a controlled fitting, so fitting one counts as building work. A new rooflight generally needs that approval. The choice of body is yours: the council's building control team, or a registered building control approver. Work that has to be notified is notified by us.

The energy figures are worth knowing. Approved Document L (Wales) says a new or replacement roof window should reach 1.4 W/m²K, or Window Energy Rating Band B, and a rooflight should reach 2.2 W/m²K. Where a replacement window cannot reach 1.4 on a building of architectural or historic interest, the document offers a fallback for windows and roof windows. There is none for rooflights.

Where a window or door opening is enlarged or a new one made, the guidance asks that the total area of windows and doors stay within a set proportion of the home's floor area.

Swaps touch ventilation too. Guidance asks that a replaced window leave the room breathing as freely as it did, which in practice means vents in the new frame to match any trickle vents in the old. Escape is a separate matter, because a roof window counts as an escape window solely when specified for that job, and the roof window Building Regulations page explains the rules.

Lanterns need a note of their own. A lantern set onto a flat roof that is already built will normally call for planning permission, as it stands tall. Where the lantern is designed into a new extension, we ask the council what applies.

Short definitions

Controlled fitting
a window, roof window or rooflight, covered by the Building Regulations
Notifiable work
work that has to be reported to building control
Article 4 direction
a council order limiting what a householder can do without applying
REAR BEDROOM:
roof window
MIDDLE LANDING:
sun tunnel
KITCHEN EXTENSION:
overhead glass

Choosing glass for a former miner's house

The easiest room to brighten is the bedroom at the back. Over the back slope, a roof window gives it light from above and a view of the sky. The choice between a top-hung and a centre-pivot style depends on headroom, and our comparison page sets out the difference.

A room that sits empty during the day suits an electric unit. Where the window is a solar or electric VELUX, its sensor closes the sash once rain starts. An electric opening rooflight therefore keeps a bedroom aired without anyone being home to catch a shower.

Bedrooms under a slope can feel closed in when the ceiling follows the roof. A window in that slope lifts the eye as well as the light, and the sky becomes part of the room. For a child's room or a spare room used as an office, that change can be the whole point of the job.

The landing is next. A sun tunnel catches light on a small roof dome and passes it down a tube to a ceiling diffuser. Rigid and flexible tubes both exist, and the loft decides between them, since pipes, joists and a water tank all get in the way.

Where a kitchen extension at the back has a flat roof, two products compete for it. Kerb-mounted glass is the low option, covered under flat roof rooflights. A roof lantern raises pitched glazing over the room. Either way, the roof beneath needs its fall.

Glazing safety is worth a thought in a busy room. One VELUX option is safety lamination: an inner pane that is laminated, so broken glass stays out of the room after an accident. What you can have depends on the window and the glazing variant.

Cooking steam is the reason a kitchen rooflight earns its keep, and also the reason it needs thinking about. Steam climbs to the glass, so an extractor over the hob does half the work. A rooflight you can open does the other half, particularly on a damp day when the washing is drying indoors.

Misted glass is the last case. When the seal fails between the panes of an old rooflight, fresh glass or a new rooflight cures it. We take on misted rooflights along with new fittings.

Start with a visit. Call 01792 929062 or use the quote form. A fixed written quote follows the survey, and the work finishes with a 10-year workmanship guarantee in writing.

Room by room
RoomWhere the light comes fromWhat to ask the survey
Rear bedroomwindow in the slopeheadroom under the sash
Landingsun tunnelroute past the pipes
Kitchenkerb glass or lanternfall of the flat roof

Tumble questions, answered one by one

Does the age of a Tumble house affect the choice of roof window?

Age says little by itself. What matters is the roof as it stands today, since extensions, new coverings and loft conversions all change it. The visit records the actual roof and the room under it, and the choice of window follows from that record, with the quote fixed in writing afterwards.

Which window gives a landing light when there is no loft room to spare?

A sun tunnel can fit where a roof window cannot, because the dome is small and the tube is narrow. It needs a route through the roof space, so the loft is checked on the visit. A tube can be rigid or flexible, and the pipes, joists and tank in your own loft decide which one suits.

Do I need approval to replace a roof window with a similar one?

Yes, in the sense that the swap counts as building work, and the new window should meet the current energy figure. Replacing only the glass in a frame you keep is treated differently under the energy rules.

Kitchen extension: tall lantern or low kerb glass?

It depends on the roof and the room. A lantern stands taller and needs planning permission on an existing flat roof, in the usual case. A flat rooflight sits lower on its kerb. Both need a roof that falls towards an outlet.

Can the survey be arranged in the evening?

Send the details through the form and say what suits you. The survey costs nothing, and the fixed written quote arrives once it is done.

What if my roof window is too high to reach for cleaning?

Self-cleaning glass is one answer, since Pilkington names roof-lights among the settings for its Activ coating, which breaks dirt down in daylight so that rain can rinse it. An electric opener is another, as it spares you a stretch for the catch. Ask at the survey which options your window can take.

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